{"id":672,"date":"2007-03-20T12:58:48","date_gmt":"2007-03-20T04:58:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/foxpro.ntsl119.com\/scr\/?p=672"},"modified":"2009-05-21T03:28:28","modified_gmt":"2009-05-20T19:28:28","slug":"foxpro-puts-microsoft-out-to-pasture","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/foxpro.ntsl119.com\/scr\/archives\/672","title":{"rendered":"FoxPro puts Microsoft Out To Pasture"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>FOXPRO PUTS MICROSOFT OUT TO PASTURE <\/p>\n<p>I was offline for almost five days due to a series of client visits.<\/p>\n<p>(Yes&#8230; I still don&#8217;t have an internet connection at home.)<\/p>\n<p>Just minutes when I went online, someone sent me a private message with a link to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.eweek.com\/article2\/0,1895,2103695,00.asp\" target=\"_blank\">The News<\/a>. <\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span class=Article_Title><a href=\"http:\/\/www.eweek.com\/article2\/0,1895,2103695,00.asp\" target=\"_blank\">Microsoft Puts FoxPro Out to Pasture<\/a><\/span><br \/>\n<span class=\"style1\">Daryl K. Taft \/ March 13, 2007<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\nAlong with that link came her &#8216;whine in the rocks&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p>Those who have been following Fox-related matters knew this day would come. <\/p>\n<p>Even the &#8216;stubborn and optimistic&#8217; FoxPro programmers like me.<\/p>\n<p>Personally in the past two years, I wasn&#8217;t bothered much by the &#8216;lack of support&#8217; rants&#8230; I was bothered seeing VFP team members, leaving and transferring one after the other.<\/p>\n<p>But I always remained optimistic.<\/p>\n<p>Along with my dog&#8230; and my pet tiger. <\/p>\n<p>Boom.<\/p>\n<p>Magnifying the wound was it being announced on the <span class=\"style1\">13<\/span>th of March.<\/p>\n<p>If MS or YAG announced it on April, May or even February or any other month it wouldn&#8217;t have bothered me. But March&#8230; March <span class=\"style1\">13<\/span>. Argh.<\/p>\n<p>They should make announcements like that on February <span class=\"style1\">14<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p>Seriously, it&#8217;s a sad day&#8230; for the people behind FoxPro and its users and developers. No matter how optimistic one is&#8230; no matter how we can always console ourselves with that &#8216;it&#8217;s a mature product we don&#8217;t need additional features anymore&#8217; line.<\/p>\n<p>It is a mature product indeed, but it still won&#8217;t change the fact that it&#8217;s sad.<\/p>\n<p>Nor does it change the fact that, sad news like this does not mean it&#8217;s the end of the world. <\/p>\n<p>MORE PASTURE LINKS <\/p>\n<p>So after reading that article and the <a href=\"http:\/\/msdn2.microsoft.com\/en-us\/vfoxpro\/bb308952.aspx\" target=\"_blank\">official announcement<\/a> in Microsoft&#8217;s site, I went out to check Andrew&#8217;s site for a series of  related links in his <a href=\"http:\/\/akselsoft.blogspot.com\/2007\/03\/future-of-your-development-lies-in-you.html\" target=\"_blank\">Future of (your) Development Lies in You, Not Microsoft<\/a> blog post. <\/p>\n<p>Here I am thinking that the future lies in the whining and the ranting and that actual coding is only around <span class=\"style1\">2<\/span> percent of the entire software development process&#8230; : )<\/p>\n<p>If I can squeeze some time within the month, I will compile a series of posts related to this.<\/p>\n<p>STATING THE OBVIOUS, AGAIN<\/p>\n<p>So, since it is still <span class=\"style1\">2:45<\/span>AM, too early to fire up another Fox-related project in this day&#8217;s tasks-in-line list of mine, let me post once again the common facts that were posted again and again.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span class=\"style1\"><b>0000<\/b><\/span> There is no Microsoft Visual FoxPro version <span class=\"style1\">10<\/span>. It&#8217;s official. But there&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.codeplex.com\/VFPX\" target=\"_blank\">VFP X<\/a> and there&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.codeplex.com\/VFPy\" target=\"_blank\">VFP Y<\/a>, and who knows a Linux FoxPro <span class=\"style1\">10<\/span> might come out somewhere. (Oh did I mention &#8216;facts&#8217;? (Hmm&#8230; did they mention there will be no Microsoft Visual FoxPro <span class=\"style1\">11<\/span> and <span class=\"style1\">12<\/span>? (Was there ever a Visual FoxPro <span class=\"style1\">4<\/span>?)))<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"style1\"><b>0001<\/b><\/span> VFP<span class=\"style1\">9<\/span> is supported and will exist until <span class=\"style1\">2015<\/span>. That&#8217;s <span class=\"style1\">8<\/span> more years. Well at least that&#8217;s what the lifecycle says. I look around and I see applications developed in Clipper <span class=\"style1\">5.2<\/span> and FoxPro <span class=\"style1\">2.6<\/span>. I still see Windows <span class=\"style1\">98<\/span>SE powered machines and&#8230; calculators still exist. Even typewriters.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"style1\"><b>0010<\/b><\/span> VFP<span class=\"style1\">9<\/span> SP<span class=\"style1\">2<\/span> will be released within <span class=\"style1\">2007<\/span>. Its target\/focus is VISTA compatibility. And the FoxPro team always delivers.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"style1\"><b>0011<\/b><\/span> SEDNA Project will be released for FREE&#8230; more importantly  as an OPEN SOURCE project. <\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span class=\"style1\">Sedna is built using the extensibility model of VFP9 and provides a number of new features including enhanced connectivity to SQL Server, integration with parts of the .NET framework, support for search using Windows Desktop Search and Windows Vista as well as enhanced access to VFP data from Visual Studio.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\nSo we have a VFP core&#8230; connectivity with the SQL Server, .NET framework integration, support for VISTA&#8230; extensibility&#8230; pancakes, magic potions and all.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"style1\"><b>0100<\/b><\/span> The FoxPro community exists&#8230; MVP VFP exists&#8230; the internet exists&#8230; MSDN articles are still archived&#8230; e-books exist&#8230; the whines will never die. Problems will still exist. Choices exist.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\nCome on. Do I really have to mention them all?<\/p>\n<p>Bottom line is, we developers exist to solve problems.<\/p>\n<p>Problem solvers&#8230; we are. <\/p>\n<p>If problems are solved&#8230; become extinct, we can easily recreate them.<\/p>\n<p>In fact, some developers who are in the &#8216;higher places&#8217; have &#8216;invented&#8217; so many problems already in the guise of &#8216;technologies&#8217; that those ought to be enough to occupy us for the next few years.<\/p>\n<p>We even compartmentalize the solutions to these problems. We give solutions that are web based (even if a simple desktop approach is enough). LAN-based solutions, mobile&#8230; web and more web.<\/p>\n<p>No matter how the list will go on, there will always be a room for a <span class=\"style1\">20<\/span>++ year old mature and reliable tool.<\/p>\n<p>Oh wait&#8230; this mind barf isn&#8217;t going the way I intended it to.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ll re-organize things later&#8230; let me just end with this:<\/p>\n<p>If someone, your client probably, or perhaps your boss&#8230; will mention that VFP is discontinued\/ravaged\/pastured or whatever&#8230; tell him no. Tell him that in fact you are  keeping TheLegacy alive by working on  Visual FoxPro <span class=\"style1\">7000<\/span> and point them to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.codeplex.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">CodePlex<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p>Of course you have to move your arse to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.codeplex.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">CodePlex<\/a> before them.<\/p>\n<p>But you have choices too, you can learn new things, no harm really. Integrate new things and other tools with VFP.<\/p>\n<p>You can also opt to whine and rant, because it makes for good entertainment in between coding.<\/p>\n<p>You can re-learn C\/C++ and create a new XBase language with DBF support. You can even use CSharp, or Python or Java or assembly language if you like.<\/p>\n<p>You can change careers too. Becoming an assassin or a spy would probably be more thrilling than proliferating the web with more whines.<\/p>\n<p>And of course you can always continue working on practical solutions and applications using Visual FoxPro.<\/p>\n<p>Your choice, Hal.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>FOXPRO PUTS MICROSOFT OUT TO PASTURE I was offline for almost five days due to a series of client visits. (Yes&#8230; I still don&#8217;t have an internet connection at home.) Just minutes when I went online, someone sent me a private message with a link to The News. 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